Dave's ESL Cafe vs Stormfront


For fun I put together a quick quiz. What follows are quotations lifted from ESL Cafe and Stormfront.

For those of you who don't know, Stormfront is the largest white supremacist/nationalist/national socialist website in existence. It's a public forum and although they allow racial slurs they strongly discourage anyone to suggest illegal activities and have strong moderation. The other one is a message board for English teachers in Korea.

Can you tell them apart? Highlight the box on the right to get your answer.

Note: In no way do I mean to call any of the Dave's posters racist. While some certainly are, a lot of other comments were said for a number of good reasons and should not reflect poorly on the writers.

1. the reason blacks in that age group have more HIV-AIDS is because they're more promiscuous than any other ethnic/racial group. Now, dearie, I know that's not PC to say, but someone needs to nudge you back to reality. Why do you suppose blacks have the highest number of out-of-wedlock births and the lowest number of father figure households? ESL Cafe
2. If they're purging free debate, than what kind of "free dominion" do they support? Why have "free" in their name if they won't even allow a free exchange of ideas? Stormfront
3. I don't like Korean men....simple as that. When I meet them, I judge them right away as being jerks. ESL Cafe
4. While I have met many Koreans whom I didn't care for, lumping them all as bad is rather ignorant. For example, I have a coworker who is half Korean and she's one of the nicest, good hearted people I know. Of course I wouldn't consider her as a possible mate for obvious reasons, and if the time came for segregation I would bid her farewell, but I most certainly do not wish for her to be exterminated, I mean Jesus Christ people..... Stormfront
5. i have nothing against oriental people at all.however,call them asian and that undermines tem as that includes muslims. Stormfront
6. Whites are cold and logical and masters of weaponry. That's why they rule -- ask D1ck Cheney. ESL Cafe
7. The biggest employer in the US is the US Fed Gov't. The Fed gov't is 17% African American while the African American population as a whole is 13%. Thats a whacked message. ESL Cafe
8. While I certainly don't think anyone has a right to commit violence against a particular group or to incite others to commit violence, I can see no logical reason why the government of Canada should be allowed to determine who I can or can't hate. Stormfront
9. The Taliban a well known gangster army of the cult of Islam has just mudered its first victim. The Cult of Islam was founded by the pedophile Mohammed. ESL Cafe
10. Why was race mixing not common in Canada say a hundred years ago? Simple answer, there were not many nonwhites, we virtually had racial separation. Stormfront
11. I've had an African American tell me that she didn't want to live in a black neighborhood because they don't respect each other and can't clean up their messes! ESL Cafe
12. Think of where Japan and South Korea would be if they hadn't copied certain Western technological and cultural aspects so closely. Stormfront
13. It's an unwillingness to tolerate Islam. Which is a natural, healthy reaction to a value system that threatens our very existence. And I don't give a fvck if it "contradicts" our Western values. ESL Cafe
14. Democracy works to the people with blinders on. But I see more and more our country turning into a Germany, with anti-hate laws, anti-nazi laws. Stormfront
15. So, my point being, it seems that freedom of speech and so many other rights are really only workable under a mono-racial state. Stormfront
16. The same goes for ¢„the N word¢„ for example regarding the Kramer debate a few months ago when people argued that 'the N word' is ok or no more offensive than terms that black people have for white people etc etc. Pure ignorance! ESL Cafe
17. No one likes to believe that racism exists in America (and elsewhere) however it is a fact of life. Those of us that ignore racism at all levels are being racist by omission. ESL Cafe
18. South Koreans are a hateful people, they consider Americans 'lazy' and simply have a contempt for our culture and ideology, they have a sycophantic somewhat jewish approach when it comes to dealing with 'superiors', and are for the most part are completely allien... Stormfront
19. Anyone else find it interesting that a Communist North Korean general cares about racial purity? Stormfront
20. Some big black arse tryed to peel a big one on me so I splet Taiwan, foound some stub at Man-toMen here, tells me he's Canadian born. Say, "Hey, buddy, think this is America" So he slgus me one, in the gut, I didn't know he's able to underatand. ESL Cafe
21. Truthfuly I love asian people.. well, atleast more then hispanics an ALLOT more then blacks an arabs. I like to go to chinese places an talk with them an eat their food, international district kicks ass! Stormfront
22. Jews are even pressuring the pulishing companies in Seoul Korea of all places...sick! Stormfront
23. You like to sit here and *beep* around one day you're gonna slip and say that to the wrong person in their face and you're not gonna be a happy camper. If you said that to me in my face I don't care who was there I would put your head in the ground. I'm not a violent person but I don't like disrespect. ESL Cafe
24. Truman wasn't the only president during the Korean war. Eisenhower won the 1952 election but he was just as weak against communism as his predecessor. Stormfront
25. Here's an example of my kind of racism: I love to see black folk succeed, as I like to see all people succeed, but I tend to consider crossing the street when I see a group of 10 of em dressed like they're in a 50 cent video. But hey, if I saw 10 white or yellow dudes dressed like they were in a 50 cent video I'd probably.... scratch that. I guess I'd just laugh at them. ESL Cafe
26. Asian countries do not include I.Q. scores from retarded and mentally disabled children in their averages, unlike Western nations. Stormfront
27. Why is it ok for there to be Asian pride, black pride, native american pride but not white pride? Why is it ok for minority based scholarships to exist but not for a scholarship for whites? Oh, poor whites is ok but everyone can apply for those-so long as they're poor... Aren't quotas for college admissions based on race, racist? ESL Cafe
28. The level of technology in South Korea makes Britain look medieval, and it is not through lack of money that Britain compares so badly to South Korea. Stormfront
29. We should care only in the fact that we could learn a few things from people like the Japanese who refuse to become multicultural and cherish their heritage. We, on the whole, are throwing it away in the name of some egalitarian leftist vision called muticulturalism which in the end could turn the USA, Canada and Australia into giant versions of the Dominican Republic. As for Europe, they are slowly turning into an Islamic wasteland , just which may beeven worse culturally. Stormfront
30. Some of the most narrow-minded, bigoted people I've met are American black men. They love to seek out white trophy girls and brag about it to the homeys but if they catch a sista with a white guy, they can't deal with it. ESL Cafe
31. I think Asians( except maybe for the japanese) are the sneakiest, most unsanitary and bizarre creatures i ever encountered, oh and they are terrible drivers. Stormfront
32. I don't give a damn about Asians being superior or not. If they are in Asia, they are where they belong. If we mix with them we would destroy both races. Stormfront
33. For radical Zionists such as the Ash-ke-NAZIS, the ends always justify the means ESL Cafe
34. Asians have, on average, higher IQs than whites. They commit fewer crimes, work harder, and are better educated than whites on average. China is a global superpower that will overtake the US within the next 20 years, and Japan, despite being a tiny island, has the second largest GNP in the world. South Korea went from being a war devestated country largely inhabited by peasants to a first world country with realistic plans to have a robot in every home by 2020 in a little more than 50 years. Stormfront
35. Hines Ward is a "hero" to the white males, black males, mixed-races, and Korean female race-mixers in South Korea, and that's about it. Stormfront
36. Westerners have no idea what they are talking about when they say Malaysia is 'moderate'. It is an explicitly racist nation with Malay-supremacist policies that would make any actual moderate of any group sick to the stomach. ESL Cafe
37. koreatown is a *beep* where all the young korean american thug wannabe's drink and drive, bars and clubs let you smoke inside, there are tons of underpaid immigrant laborers, a huge amount of luxury cars rolling around all the time. ESL Cafe
38. Bringing a mixed race child into this world is the cruelest thing that can be done by the most selfish people. The child has no sense of cultural identity, and is actively shunned by both cultures. Stormfront
39. Koreans deserve their own homeland, and they have one. We want this right for our homelands too, we don't want to destroy theirs. Stormfront
40. I like the symbol it looks awesome. I don't like what Nazi scum stand for though, even though I would never trust most Jewish people. I think we all have prejudices and intolerance. There is nothing wrong with thinking this way as long as we don't act on these thoughts and hurt other people. ESL Cafe
41. And as I have already mentioned, you are breaking board guidelines by advocating genocide. Do you have no respect for the owner of this board and his rules? Stormfront
42. I am just irritated because Che's ok, but Nazi's aren't. I don't believe in either ideology, but the fact is that your "selective" outrage is just plain ignorant. ESL Cafe
43. There are new white people coming here everyday - because they are sick of black on white crime, because they are sick of Mexican immigrants invading our borders - maybe even because they are sick of Jew media control in our countries. Stormfront
44. And yes, Korea like Japan is almost completely one group, and yes I wish we had the same percentage. All this aside, this is an assinine thread and only idiots want to destroy whole nations because of a few individuals! Stormfront
45. North Korea is an economic basket case, and the threats of nukes and missles is more saber rattling/political posturing than reality. Everyone knows--ESPECIALLY North Korea, if they tried something along those lines, they'd be a parking lot, post haste! Stormfront
46. I should start a rabid anti-Nazi crusade. We could get a giant watermelon as our symbol and go around kicking scooters and burning Nazi bars and making all Nazi's (or those with distant Nazi blood) wear giant yellow stars. Then we could round up all of the Nazi's or people that we just don't like and put them into camps and make them slaves in support of our anti-Nazi efforts. After all, it was the Nazi's that created racism and all that is wrong with the world. ESL Cafe
47. White people tend to be more selective in their voting, taking into consideration more factors than skin colour or tribal affiliation. Stormfront
48. Both North and South Korea are enemy combatant nations that would just as soon wipe every single one of us off the face of the earth... Stormfront
49. What medieval nonsense Muslims want to get upto in their own countries is of little concern to me. What they do in the West is of great concern to me.We should do as follows: -Massively reduce, and in some cases reverse immigration from Muslim countries -Lessen our dependence on Middle East oil. -Close down any mosques that preach anti-infidel hatred or campaign for Islamic Law in the West. At the same time stop the overseas funding of Mosques, Islamic centres etc. from countries which do not allow full equality for religious minorities. -Have an honest public debate about the tenets of Islam, and speak frankly, without consideration of PC sensibilities, of what is acceptable in our countries. ESL Cafe
50. Okay, what the **** is wrong with you people? Since when is it wrong to want to exterminate a people who hate us? I'd rather nuke Norks though. Stormfront
51. Everyone has their crosses to bear. There are now 35,000 mixed race people in South Korea. Stormfront
52. several posters said that asians hate all white people and are not creative. i have dated a korean girl in the past. she certainly wasnt with me for money, i am poor as ****. we had a great relationship. Stormfront
53. White Canadians in my opinion are a mentally ill(insane)population and I don't think this will ever change. Too much indoctrination and brainwashing has gone on for too long. Stormfront
54. I've met a few Japanese and Koreans and they all have been very respectful and well educated. They also have a high sense of honour and self respect, something almost totally lost within White people nowadays. But as much as I respect them, they do not belong in White nations. Stormfront
55. Will it ever end? The liberal circus comes to Howard University, a historically black college and immediately Hillary tries to "outblack" Obama. It would be funny if it wasn't so predictably pathetic. ESL Cafe
56. Recently my brother had married his Filipino girlfriend of five years...much to my family's dismay since non-intimate relations with people who are not white are only tolerated, dating is like exile (we are still in shock). Stormfront
57. And historically, the Nazi's didn't "100%" suck. They were masters of military and industrial innovation. If it wasn't for the Nazi's, the Soviet Union would have owned Europe. And it is indisputable that Stalin was far, far more evil than Hitler. ESL Cafe
58. So, to say it briefly: my vision on Asians is that you have 2 kinds of Asians: the civilised Asians, with whom I do not really have a problem, and the thugs, who ARE a problem. Still, the Asian world is a threat for the position of the West in the world both economically and politically. Stormfront
59. I'm racist(if you quantify it that way), I think that Japanese men are cruel, childlike and obnoxious. I also think that black men are aggressive, mentally deficient and criminals by nature. I happen to be not alone with these thoughts. ESL Cafe
60. North Korea is a joke. South Korea should set up a huge BBQ just their side of the border, with big fans to send the smell of fresh FOOD across. Free beer and all you can eat to any defectors. Probably see the collapse of North Korea inside of ten minutes. Stormfront
61. No surprise for those of us who know that a socialist leader in a developing country is always only two words away from being a fascist dictator. ESL Cafe
62. Yes I a m calling out the Yukon Children's Services. Even after I proved in a court of law they still keep lying to cover their ass. I could adopt a child but the Z.O.G government of the Yukon wont let me have my own. Stormfront
63. These are all idiots who cant accept the fact that the reason 3rd world countries are the hellholes they are, is due to the people and culture inhabiting them. Stormfront
64. Al Sharpton would do the world, and his familt, a big favour if he were to cut himself long and deep. ESL Cafe
65. Truth be told, if a cultural society is healthy, people are free to race-mix or not race-mix, whichever they so choose - and because the cultural society is healthy, the individuals are healthy enough that so few would choose to miscegenate, that it would have virtually no long-term ill effects upon the populace. Stormfront
66. Don't spit on the sidewalk you animals. ESL Cafe
67. According to the evidence outlined in "Final Judgment" the Zionists ordered and covered up the assassination. These would be the people that control our government to this day. ESL Cafe
68. Finally, let me ask you a question - have you ever stepped up and defended white people like you defended asians here? They are after all YOUR people. Stormfront

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